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A: Are there only certain types of activities where this can happen, or can it happen with any activity?
B: Well, flow can happen with a lot of different activities, from reading, to playing chess, to rock climbing; 
however, if you look at the requirements we just talked about, some activities wouldn't fit. Think of watching 
TV, for example. You might concentrate deeply on watching a TV program, but there's really no skill involved 
and it's unlikely to be challenging. Dr. Csikszentmihlayi actually uses a chart to show the relationship between 
challenge and skill that is necessary for flow to happen. It involves low levels of boredom and worry, and high 
but balanced levels of skill and challenge.
A: OK. I was a little surprised to see that reading is an activity that could create a state of flow, but now I 
understand. Reading involves some level of skill and challenge in terms of understanding language, whereas 
watching TV doesn't typically offer that.
B: Yes, that's right. Really there are so many activities that can lead to flow: singing, skiing, painting, and a lot 
of games that we play.
A: Is experiencing flow the same as feeling happy?
B: No, there's definitely a difference. If you're in a state of flow, you're attention is so focused that you aren't 
even aware of how you feel about the situation. Reflecting on whether you feel happy or not would mean you 
were out of flow. It's only later, after the state has passed, that you can be aware of the pleasure of that state. So, 
in that way it's different from flow. And you can feel happy without experiencing flow. For example, sitting on 
a beach might make you feel happy but not necessarily create a state of flow.
A: Why does all this matter?
B: Well, I believe, as Dr. Csikszentmihlayi does, that experiences of flow are pleasurable for people and 
contribute to quality of life. So, if people aloe more aware of which experiences produce this state, they can 
work toward including more of them in their lives.