Were there any times you faded hysteria and lost?
Yes, one of my greatest lessons happened in my early days and taught me about bear markets. In January
1970, a time when I still bought options, I took all the money I had—which wasn't very much—and bought puts. In
May 1970, the market caved in, and the day the market hit bottom, I sold my puts. I had tripled my money. I was a
genius! "I'm going to be the next Bernard Baruch," I said to myself.
My plan then was to wait for the market to rally and this time to sell short instead of buying puts so that I
would make money faster. Sure enough the market rallied, and I took everything I had and went short. Needless to
say, two months later, I was completely wiped out because I didn't know what I was doing.
One of the stocks I had shorted was Memorex. I sold Memorex at 48. In those days, I didn't have the staying
power—psychologically, emotionally, and, most important, financially. I ended up covering my shorts at 72. Memorex
eventually went to about 96 and then went straight down to 2.
I was dead right, absolutely, flat-out, perfectly right to short that stock at 48.1 just ended up getting
completely wiped out. The market didn't care that I was dead right. That is one of the reasons that I now know about
hysteria.
What did you learn from that particular experience?
That the market is going to go higher than I think it can and lower than I think it will. I had a tendency to
think that if I knew something, everybody knew it. I would just read things in the paper; I didn't have any inside
information. What I now know is that they don't know what I know. Most people don't have the foresight to look six
months, one year, or two years out. The Memorex experience taught me that anything can happen in the stock
market, because there are a lot of people in the market who don't understand what is going on.
Are you looking for a very pronounced bear market beyond what we have already seen?
Yes, eventually I expect the market to break the October 1987 low.
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