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patrik ziuskindi 25 ciskari ciskari _ _ № № 1-2 1-2, 2017 , 2017 vios, Tu ra icis aleqsandre make- donelze, romelzec uamravi wigni aqvs wakiTxuli an aswlian omze da dasZens, rom araferic ar icis. bo- los am fiqrebiT da gaxsenebis mc- delobebiT daRlili gmiri ixsenebs erTi leqsis bolo frazas, romlis arc avtori axsovs, arc saTauri, Tumca moTxrobis dasawyisSi amave leqsis saTauris nawili axsendeba _ apoloni. bolo fraza ki ase JRers: „Sen unda Secvalo Seni cxovreba!“ gaTviTcnobierebuli mkiTxveli mixvdeba, rom saubaria rainer maria rilkes leqsze „apolonis arqau- li torsi“ (` Archaischer Torso Apollos“ 1908): „Du mußt dein Leben ändern“. patrik ziuskindis narativi oTxive SemTxvevaSi agebulia legatos prin- cipze, misi sintaqsis da semantikis datvirTva izrdeba pirvelidan meoT- xe moTxrobamde, icvleba aseve nara- tivis temporitmi da yovelive amas amave mzardi principiT Tanxlebas uwevs ironiuli intonireba. rac Seexeba am moTxrobebis na- rativs da diegeziss, minda oriod sityviT ganvmarto: `diegezisi~ berZnuli sityvaa da monaTxrob ambavs niSnavs. i. lintveltis Tanaxmad, Txrobis he- terodiegeturi da homodiegeturi tipebi Txrobis or ZiriTad bazi- sur formas an saxes warmoadgens. heterodiegeturi Txrobisas mTx- robeli ar gvevlineba monaTxrob ambavSi, rogorc aqtori, e.i. is ar gamodis moqmedi piris funqciaSi, xolo homodiegeturi Txrobis- as erTi da igive personaJi ormag funqcias asrulebs: is, erTi mxriv, aris naratori (me mTxrobeli _ Je-narrant) da amdenad pasuximge- belia (mo)Txrobis organizaciaze, amave dros igive personaJi gvecxa- deba aqtoris rolSi, (me, romlis Sesaxebac mimdinareobs Txroba _ Je-narre) da monaTxrob ambavSi moqmedi piris rols asrulebs. problema mTxrobeli piris po- ziciaSi ki ar mdgomareobs, aramed mkiTxvelis orientirSi, romelic miiRweva Txrobis fokusis, anu ima- ve Tvalsazrisis (point of view, Gesicht- spunkt) manipulirebis xarjze an su- lac misi saSualebiT. Tvalsazrisis problema i. lintveltma daiyvana diskursebis tipologiis sakiTxam- de, anu diskursiul tipologiam- de, amasTan, man gaaerTiana mis mier gamoyofili ori ZiriTadi Txrobis forma (heterodiegeturi da homo- diegeturi) aqtorialuri, auqto- rialuri da neitraluri Txrobis tipebTan, ramac mTlianobaSi Sead- gina misi naratiuli tipebis sqema. oriod sityva auqtorzec: auqto- ri _ (laT. auctor) niSnavs Semqm- nels, Semoqmeds, mwerals. narato- logiis terminia, romelic 1915 wels SemoiRo f. k. Stancelma da romelic ukve Semdgom aitaces da ganavrces sxva mecnierebma. es ter- mini Tavisi mniSvnelobiT utolde- ba abstraqtul avtors, f. k. Stan- celma cneba „auqtori“ SemoiRo imisaTvis, rom gaemijna sxvadasxva naratiuli tipi, anu ganesazRvra da gamoekveTa saTxrobi masalis pre- zentaciis xerxebi imis mixedviT, Tu vin warmoadgens mkiTxvelisaT- vis Txrobis procesSi orientaciis centrs. sxvagvarad rom vTqvaT, auqtori aris mxatvruli nawarmo- ebis organizatori, is sTavazobs mkiTxvels Tavis interpretacias, Tavis Tvalsazriss mosaTxrob da saTxrob movlenebsa da moqmedebeb- ze, romelic gamoixateba sxvadasxva personaJis mier. im SemTxvevaSi, rodesac saqme gvaqvs mxatvrul teqstTan, ro- 26 ciskari ciskari _ _ № № 1-2 1-2, 2017 , 2017 melSic Txroba mimdinareobs me- same pirSi, saqme gvaqvs Txrobis heterodiegetur auqtorialur tipTan, xolo im SemTxvevaSi, ro- desac mxatvrul teqstSi Txroba mimdinareobs pirveli pirSi, saqme gvaqvs homodiegetur auqtorialur tipTan. lintveltiseuli sqemis Tana- xmad, SeiZleba vTqvaT, rom pirve- li moTxroba „swrafva siRrmisaken“ dawerilia mesame pirSi da warmoad- gens auqtorialur heterodiege- tur tips. meore moTxroba _ „Serkineba“ dawerilia mesame pirSi da warmoad- gens auqtorialur heterodiege- tur tips. mesame moTxroba _ „metr miusa- ris anderZi“ dawerilia pirvel pirSi (me _ mTxrobeli _ Je-narrant) da warmoadgens auqtorialur ho- modiegetur tips (Tu ar CavTvliT epigrafsa da boloTqmas, rac avto- ris omniprezenciaze metyvelebs). meoTxe moTxroba _ „literatu- ruli amnezia“ dawerilia pirvel pirSi (me _ mTxrobeli _ Je-narrant) da warmoadgens auqtorialur ho- modiegetur tips. daskvnis saxiT SeiZleba iTqvas, rom am oTx moTxrobas aerTianebs rogorc naratiuli tipebis Tana- mimdevroba, aseve Tematurobac _ simartove da kompleqsebis Tu fobiebis daZleva, rac logikur struqturas iZens maT Tanmimdev- robaSi: adamianis survili _ Cawvdes sxva adamianebs Soris cxovrebis arsis siRrmes, brZoliT moipovos da daimkvidros Tavisi adgili, an- derZiT gadasces STamomavlobas mis mier dagrovili codna da dak- virvebebi da bolos TiTqosda dai- viwyos yvelaferi, rac ki ram uTq- vamT da gaukeTebiaT mis winaprebs. mexsierebaSi mxolod erTi senten- ciaRa rCeba: `Sen unda Secvalo Seni cxovreba!~ 27 ciskari ciskari _ _ № № 1-2 1-2, 2017 , 2017 baTu danelia sxva xalxi vuZRvni axalgazrdobas sxva xalxis ismis aq Jriamuli. galaktioni poetis erTi leqsi poetis erTi leqsi sxvaxalxi movida, sruliad sxvaxalxi, sxvanair gagebiT, sxvanair maRalxmiT, sxvagvarad sduman da usmenen laparaks, aseve swuxan da xaroben sxvagvarad, sxvagvari TvalebiT gascqeren sivrceebs da sxvagvar dadian! da sxvagvar icmeven! da sxvagvar igeben yofnas da aryofnas, da sxvafer aqceven sityvebsac Jargonad da sxvafer isvrian mzerasac iribuls, xolo Cven gvgonia, isini piruku Svrebian yvelafers, rasac Cven vSvrebodiT da CvenTvis rac niSnavs revanSs da nepotizms, maT Rims gvris. maT vnebebs ekoc da kepotic ver acxrobs. isini qarxniT da depoTi ar iamayeben, magram maT gamjdari eqnebaT Zval-rbilSi simarTlis laSqari, naTeli gonebac da didi Segnebac, madlic da gaZlebac uzRvavi eqnebaT da swored amitom, sworedac amitom Cven, unayofoebs, amaod hyvaviTo, gvetyvian isini uTuod xvalanzeg, radgan, romc ekidon bewvze da balanze, mSobliur miwa-wyals erT bewos, erTcidas aravis miscemen milion vercxlisda milion oqrosTvis da arsad, arasdros mruded ar gazomavs amaTi Tarazo... da, rogorc Sriali Zvel baRSi axalxis, garSemo yovelgan igrZnoba sxvaxalxi. 28 ciskari ciskari _ _ № № 1-2 1-2, 2017 , 2017 daTo turaSvili selim ximSiaSvilis procesi dramaturgia dramaturgia procesis monawileebi: mosamarTle, anu reJisori bralmdebeli, anu prokurori veqili, anu advokati mowme-momxseneblebi: berta fon zutneri gimnazisti kaxaber buaCiZe, istorikosi batoni Tedo saxokia scena warmoadgens sarepeticio oTaxs, sadac magidis garSemo msax- iobebi sxedan (Tabaxis furclebiT xelSi) da reJisors usmenen. reJisori: _ warmoidgineT TiTqmis asi wlis winandeli saqarTvelo, roca Cvens qveyanaSi Zalian xSirad sazogadoe- briv klubebsa da TeatrebSi, is- eTi literaturuli sasamarTloebi imarTeboda, sadac ganixileboda ara mxolod literaturuli person- aJebis, aramed istoriuli pirebis gaxmaurebuli saqmeebic da aseT Teat- ralur procesebs uamravi adamiani eswreboda. gimnazisti gogo: _ ratom, modaSi iyo? reJisori: _ garda imisa, rom sasamarTlo procesis dadgma maSin marTla modaSi iyo, Teatri iyo erTaderTi sajaro sivrce, sadac qarTul enaze laparaks, rusebi ar gvikrZalavdnen. batoni Tedo saxokia: _ da amitomac aseT warmodgenebs uamravi adamiani eswreboda maSin- del saqarTveloSi da xalxsac ise moswonda es sanaxaoba, rom mere, msaxiobebis mibaZviT, TviTonac, saxlebSic ki marTavdnen xolme ms- gavs sasamarTlo procesebs. reJisori: _ rolebi ukve ganawilebulia, teqstebic yvelas gaqvT da mgoni, yvelaferi gasagebia... bralmdebeli, anu prokurori: _ yvelaferi ar aris gasagebi da vin iqneba mosamarTle, amis Sesaxeb ganawilebaSic araferi weria. main- teresebs da ar SeiZleba vicode? Tu saidumloa? reJisori: _ saidumlo ar aris, mosamarTle me TviTon viqnebi. gTxovT, fexze 29 ciskari ciskari _ _ № № 1-2 1-2, 2017 , 2017 adgeT da moemzadoT _ sasamarTlo procesi iwyeba! yvelani dgebian da skamebs scenaze ise gadaaadgileben, rogorc amas reJisori ukarnaxebs maT da msax- iobebi magidasac ise Seatrialeben, rom mayurebelmac ukeT warmoidgi- nos sasamarTlo darbazSi mimdinare procesi. reJisori-mosamarTle: _ rogorc ukve iciT, dRes ganvixi- lavT Tavad selim ximSiaSvilis saqmes da rogorc aseve ukve giTxariT, am process eswreba qalbatoni berta fon zutneri da radgan igi qalba- tonia da Tanac stumari, pirvelad swored mas unda movusminoT. berta fon zutneri: _ CemTvis udidesi pativia, vis- aubro iseTi adamianis Sesaxeb, vinc udidesi wvlili Seitana saqarTvelos aRdgenasa da gaTavisuflebaSi, magram cota mikvirs kidec, rom selim xim- SiaSvilis gardacvalebidan jer asi welic ar gasula da saqarTveloSi zogierTebs arc ki axsovT misi dam- saxureba da Rvawli... mosamarTle: _ miuxedavad imisa, rom qarTulad, marTlac, mSvenivrad saubrobT, Tqve- ni saxelisa da gvaris mixedviT Tu vimsjelebT, unda vivaraudoT, rom warmoSobiT qarTveli ar brZandebiT. Tu SeiZleba, moaxseneT sasamarTlos, rodis da sad daibadeT da ra gakav- SirebT saqarTvelosTan. berta fon zutneri: _ davibade praRaSi 1843 wels, magram vizrdebodi venaSi da saqa- rTveloSi ki aRmovCndi gaTxovebis Semdeg, rasac Cems meuRles, artur fon zutners unda vumadlode. Cven saidumlod viqorwineT venaSi da iZulebulebi gavxdiT, sxvagan mogveZebna TavSesafari da arturis gadawyvetilebiT, es iyo zugdidi. bralmdebeli: _ ratom? berta fon zutneri: _ ratom zugdidi? bralmdebeli: _ ara, ratom saidumlo qorwineba? veqili (mosamarTles): _ vaprotesteb, Tqveno Rirsebav. mosamarTle (bertas): _ ratom maincadamainc zugdidi? mowme berta: _ Cemi aw gardacvlili meuRle artur fon zutneri piradad icnob- da samegrelos dedofal ekaterine WavWavaZe-dadianisas da rogorc Cans, swored aman ganapiroba Cveni maSin- deli arCevani. mosamarTle: _ ras saqmianobdiT zugdidSi? berta: _ Cemi meuRle xelmZRvanelobda salome da aSil miuratebis sasax- lis mSeneblobas zugdidSi, xolo me musikasa da germanuls vaswavli- di bavSvebs im ojaxebSi, sadac amis survili maT mSoblebs hqondaT. bralmdebeli: _ Tu Tqven zugdidsa da samegre- loSi cxovrobdiT da moRvaweobdiT, ra iseTi kompetencia gagaCniaT aWaris sakiTxebTan dakavSirebiT, rom selim ximSiaSvili sasamarTlos procesSic 30 ciskari ciskari _ _ № № 1-2 1-2, 2017 , 2017 ki iRebT monawileobas? advokati (mosamarTles): _ vaprotesteb! mosamarTle (advokats): _ yvelafers ratom aprotestebT?! advokati: _ imitom, rom es SekiTxva Seura- cxmyofelia. berta: _ Seuracxmyofeli marTlac iqne- boda, marTla rom araferi mcodnoda aWarisa da selim-faSas Sesaxeb, magram Cemi aw gansvenebuli meuRlisagan imdeni vici gansaxilvel sakiTxTan dakavSirebiT, rom veqilis dacva, albaT, arc damWirdeba. Tqven ki is unda icodeT, rom Cemi qmari artur zutneri aWaris mkvlevaric iyo da mgoni pirveli evropelic gaxldaT, vinc calke wigni miuZRvna aWarasa da aWarlebs. mosamarTle: _ garda imisa, rac Tqveni qmris wignSia aRwerili da aq warmodgeni- li, ra SegiZliaT gviTxraT konkre- tulad selim ximSiaSvilTan dakav- SirebiT da ra gsmeniaT mis Sesaxeb imave Tqveni meuRlisagan? berta: _ rogorc ukve mogaxseneT, Cven ZiriTadad zugdidSi vcxovrobdiT, magram im aTi wlis ganmavlobaSi, romelic Cven saqarTveloSi gava- tareT, Cemi qmari gamudmebiT mog- zaurobda yvelgan am qveyanaSi da gansakuTrebiT xSirad ki aWaras st- umrobda. misi daintereseba gasage- bi iyo _ is wigns werda aWarlebze da wignisTvis masalebs agrovebda, magram igi ara marto werda, ar- amed ise gatacebiT yveboda kidec aWarul istoriebs, rom yvelaferi dRemde Zalian kargad maxsovs. bralmdebeli (awyvetinebs bertas): _ mapatieT, magram romel wleb- Si cxovrobdiT saqarTveloSi, anu daaxloebiT ra periodSi stumrob- da xolme Tqveni meuRle baTumsa da aWaras? berta: _ Tqveni SekiTxvis konteqsti, rasakvirvelia, gasagebia da rasak- virvelia, maSin, im wlebSi, selim _ faSa cocxali aRar iyo, magram zemo aWaraSi, maSinac ki, jer kidev cxov- robdnen asakovani adamianebi, rom- lebsac araTu axsovdaT cocxali selim ximSiaSvili, aramed TviTmx- ilvelebic ki iyvnen 1815 wels xixanis cixeSi ganviTarebuli movlenebisa. metic, Cemi qmari piradad icnobda ramdenime zemoaWarels, romlebic specialurad miiyvanes im adgilas bakibakoSi, sadac selim ximSiaSvils Tavi mohkveTes. Cemi meuRle imasac ambobda xolme, rom saqarTvelosT- vis aseTi kaci sikvdiliT dasajes da saqarTveloSi yvelam arc ki icis se- limi vin iyoo. bralmdebeli: _ da xSirad giyvebodaT Tqveni Zvirfasi meuRle imis Sesaxeb Tu ro- gor moWres adamians Tavi da TqvenT- vis es Zalian saintereso iyo? advokati: _ vaprotesteb! berta (mosamarTles): _ vupasuxo? mosamarTle (bertas): _ Tu amis survili gaqvT, rasak- virvelia... 31 ciskari ciskari _ _ № № 1-2 1-2, 2017 , 2017 berta: _ rogorc saqarTveloze Seyvare- bul adamians, saukeTeso qarTvelebis Sesaxeb maSin yvelaferi maintereseb- da, magram, rogorc cnobismoyvare qals, Zalian mizidavda gmirebis pi- radi cxovrebac da amis Sesaxeb me TviTon vkiTxe erTxel Cems meuRles. advokati: _ Tu Tqven gulisxmobT selim ximSiaSvilis pirad cxovrebas da amis moyolas aq apirebT, me Segax- senebT rom am procesis mizani sul sxva garemoebaTa dadgenaa. bralmdebeli (advokats): _ vin ra Cveneba unda misces sa- samarTlos, mgoni, es mosamarTlis gadasawyvetia da ara Tqveni. mosamarTle (bertas): _ Tu Tqven saWirod migaCniaT, brZaneT... berta: _ diax, saWirod mimaCnia, rom aq vilaparakoT ara mxolod misi sazoga- do Rvawlis Sesaxeb da msurs, rom swored aq, am procesze, misi piradi cxovrebac gavixsenoT, radgan ka- cis saqcielsa da cxovrebas zoga- dad, xSirad swored misi siyvaruli gansazRvravs. advokati, anu veqili: _ magram nu dagaviwydebaT, rom saqarTveloSi ar uyvarT piradi cxovrebis gamomzeureba. bralmdebeli, anu prokurori: _ Tumca sxvisi piradi cxovreba yovelTvis Zalian ainteresebT... mosamarTle (bertas): _ ra iciT selim ximSiaSvilis ojaxuri mdgomareobis Sesaxeb is- eTi, rac Cvens sasamarTlos daex- mareba da Sesabamis samsaxurs gauw- evs WeSmaritebis dadgenaSi? berta: _ vici is simarTle, rac Cemi gansvenebuli meuRlisgan msmenia da SemiZlia Tqvenc mogaxsenoT, rom im qalis gamo, romelic selim faSas Seuyvarda, man namdvili evropeli raindiviT ibrZola. amas imitom mogaxsenebT, rom qalisTvis brZola sakmaod ucxoa islamuri samyarosT- vis da rogorc wesi, aRmosavleTis kacebi sasurvel qalSi fuls ixdian xolme da patarZalsac, ubralod, yiduloben. selim ximSiaSvilma ki im qalisTvis, romelsac elmasi erqva da albaT almasiviT mSvenieri iyo, bolomde raindulad ibrZola. bralmdebeli: _ almasi Tu elmasi? advokati: _ ra mniSvneloba aqvs? bralmdebeli: _ mainc? berta: _ mniSvnelovani is aris, rom Tqvens `vefxistyaosanSic~ swored es xdeba da SoTa rusTaveli sinamd- vileSi sparsul da aRmosavlur am- bavs ki ar aRwers, aramed Zvelevro- puls, sadac qali ki ar unda geyida, aramed unda gebrZola misTvis... bralmdebeli (mosamarTles): _ mgoni, aq literaturis gakveTil- ze ar varT da arc `vefxistyaosnis~ garCeva dagvavala romelime maswav- lebelma. 32 ciskari ciskari _ _ № № 1-2 1-2, 2017 , 2017 mosamarTle (bertas): _ saqmesTan dakavSirebiT isau- breT, Tu SeiZleba. berta: _ diax, saqmesTan dakavSirebiT mogaxsenebT, radgan selim ximSiaS- vilis siyvarulis istoria, kidev erTxel, swored imis dadasture- baa, rom mas da kidev bevr aWarels mahmadianuri sarwmunoeba mxolod garegnulad, mxolod formalurad hqondaT miRebuli da sinamdvile- Si ki isini isev Zveli qarTuli da qristeanuli wesebiT cxovrobdnen da selimis siyvarulis magaliTze es gansakuTrebiT kargad Cans... braldebuli (mosamarTles): _ mgoni, aq arc religiis gakveTi- li gvaqvs da arc romelime maTganis qeba an kritika mouciaT davalebad. berta: _ ara, ras brZanebT, kritika ra sakadrisia. Cven, evropelebi, nebi- smieri rwmenisa da aRmsareblobis adamianebs vcemT pativs da amiT va- mayobT kidec. me mxolod tradicie- bi Sevadare erTmaneTs da faqtis moyola daviwye, Torem imis Tqma, rom romelime religia meoreze ukeTesia, arc mifiqria... mosamarTle (bertas): _ faqtis Txroba gaagrZeleT, Tu SeiZleba. berta: _ faqti ki is iyo, rom, rogorc ukve giTxariT, selim ximSiaSvilma, Tavis xalxTan erTad, is qali gamoix- sna da mere colad SeirTo, romelic aWaridan axalcixeSi, Saqir aTabagTan mihyavdaT haramxanisTvis da selims ki is Zalian uyvarda. Saqir aTabagma, rasakvirvelia, Tavi Seuracxyofilad igrZno da bolos aWaraSi TviTon CaakiTxa selims elmasis gamo, magram selim ximSiaSvilma qalis daTmobaze isev uari Tqva. aman aTabagi saSin- lad ganarisxa, radgan maSin aWara axalcixes emorCileboda osmaluri wesiT da Saqiric urC aWarels dasjiT daemuqra _ Tu nebiT ar damiTmob, im qals ZaliT waviyvan da Cems ha- ramxanaSi xarWad davisvamo. aTabagis muqaras selim ximSiaSvilmac muqariT upasuxa _ es ulvaSi momparse, Tu male Seni cixe ar aviRo da Seni ha- ramxanis karic ar gavaRoo... ekranze, SesaZloa, Cndebodes aSkarad Seyvarebuli, axalgazrda wyvili jinsebSi. isini mTiani aWaris romelime xidze sxedan da erTmaneTs ise uyureben, rogorc es mxolod pae- manze xdeba. mere xelCakidebulebi seirnoben da bolos biWi gogos be- Weds Cuqnis da gogo sapasuxod biWs kocnis, Tumca es Tanamedrove pae- mani, SeiZleba, sxva adgilasac iyos gadaRebuli (musikis TanxlebiT) da ara aucileblad xidze. am kadrebis paralelurad ki berta axla ukve se- limis siyvarulze laparakobs: berta: _ es iyo didi da namdvili siyvar- uli orives mxridan, iseTi, romlis Sesaxebac wignebs weren, speqtak- lebs dgamen da axla ukve kinoebsac iReben lumierebis wabaZviT. es iyo didi da namdvili grZnoba, romelic SeiZleba mxolod erTxel gaCndes Sens cxovrebaSi, magram, Tu Cndeba, igi ise aZlierebs adamians, rom am adamianisTvis SeuZlebeli da miuR- weveli ukve aRaraferi arsebobs. aq da sxvaganac kamaToben axla, magram selim ximSiaSvilis istoriis mkvl- evarebi momavalSi kidev ufro bevrs 33 ciskari ciskari _ _ № № 1-2 1-2, 2017 , 2017 ikamaTeben imis Sesaxeb, Tu konkretu- lad rodis daiwyo man brZola Tavi- suflebisTvis da am kiTxvaze zusti pasuxi me ukve axla maqvs. selim xim- SiaSvilma am brZolis gadawyvetileba swored maSin miiRo, roca es mSvenieri qali Seuyvarda. da saerTod, mxolod Seyvarebuli kaci SeiZleba iyos aseTi Zlieri da Tavisufali... bralmdebeli (awyvetinebs bertas): _ bodiSi da selimis pira- di cxovrebis detalebic Tqveni meuRlisagan iciT? berta: _ piradad, rasakvirvelia, ar minaxavs, magram vici, rom Wvanis xe- obaSi, sofel varjanaulTan, axlac arsebobs elmas-xanumis mier agebu- li ulamazesi TaRovani xidi. xolo, rac Seexeba piradi cxovrebis de- talebs, ramdenadac maxsovs, selim ximSiaSvilis piradi cxovrebis Ses- axeb batonma kaxaber buaCiZem miam- bo, roca is zugdidSi CamobrZanda. bralmdebeli: _ Tqven dapatiJeT? advokati: _ vaprotesteb SekiTxvas! berta: _ batoni kaxaber buaCiZe, rogorc istorikosi da pedagogi, swored im ojaxSi moiwvies maSin, sadac me pa- tarebs musikas vaswavlidi... bralmdebeli: _ Tbilisidan rom ar CamoeyvanaT, zugdidSi istoriis maswavlebeli ar iyo?! berta: _ yvelas surs, rom TavianT Svi- lebs saukeTeso pedagogebi hyavdeT. bralmdebeli: _ da sanam Tqveni qmari aWaraSi mogzaurobda, Tqvens SekiTxvebs kaxaber buaCiZe pasuxobda? advokati: _ vaprotesteb! mosamarTle (bertas): _ kidev ra giTxraT batonma kaxa- berma selim ximSiaSvilis Sesaxeb iseTi, rac kargad dagamaxsovrdaT da rac mniSvnelovnad migaCniaT sa- samarTlosTvis? berta: _ bevri ram, magram, ramac maSin gansakuTrebiT damainteresa, misi monawileoba iyo erekle mefis da- krZalvis ceremonialSi. bralmdebeli: _ erekle mefis dakrZalvaSi maSin TiTqmis mTelma saqarTvelom miiRo monawileoba da selim faSam amiT ase- Ti gansakuTrebuli mainc ra gaakeTa?! berta: _ erekle meoris dros aWara osmaleTis imperiis nawili iyo da selim ximSiaSvilma ki erekle ise daitira, rogorc Tavisi mefe da amas udidesi mniSvneloba hqonda ara mxolod aWarlebis, aramed da- narCeni qarTvelebisTvisac. bralmdebeli: _ erekle meores ara mxolod gar- dacvalebis Semdeg, sicocxleSic Zalian did pativs scemdnen da maT Soris araqarTvelebic. sxvaTa Soris, evropeli mmarTvelebi swored mas mi- iCnevdnen kavkasiis namdvil liderad da misi keTilganwyobis mosapoveblad arc rusebi iSurebdnen saCuqrebs da arc osmalebi. magaliTad, ruse- 34 ciskari ciskari _ _ № № 1-2 1-2, 2017 , 2017 Tis dedofalma ekaterinem erTxel erekles samovari gamougzavna da es rom osmaleTis sulTanma gaigo, saswrafod gasca brZaneba, rom er- ekle meorisTvis uZvirfasesi qurqi CamoetanaT stambulidan tfilisSi... advokati (awyvetinebs): _ imedia, Tqven TviTonac dameTanx- mebiT, rom sasamarTlos mTavar Temas axla namdvilad gadauxvieT. berta (agreTve bralmdebels): _ da Tqven saerTod gadauxvieT, Tu TqvenTvis jer kidev gaugebaria selim ximSiaSvilis Rvawli da roli saqarTvelos istoriaSi. bralmdebeli (bertas): _ imedia, rom Tqven mier am zmnis ase uadgilod gamoyeneba Tqveni qa- rTulis maswavleblis damsaxureba ufroa, vidre Tqveni. mosamarTle (bertas): _ didi madloba mobrZanebisTvis da Tu sasamarTlo saWirod CaTv- lis, kidev erTxel mogviwevs Tqveni Sewuxeba am saqmesTan dakavSirebiT. berta: _ me SemiZlia axlave mogaxsenoT yvelaferi, rac vici. mosamarTle: _ darwmunebuli var, rom Segi- ZliaT, magram axla sxva mowmeebsac unda movusminoT. berta fon zutneri gakvirvebuli da cota nawyeni saxiT tovebs mowmis adgils da iqve, darbazSi jdeba da mis adgils ki, kaxa buaCiZe ikavebs. kaxaber buaCiZe: _ gamarjobaT! mosamarTle: _ Tu SeiZleba, moaxseneT sasamarT- los Tqveni vinaoba. kaxaber buaCiZe: _ kaxaber buaCiZe, istorikosi. mosamarTle: _ amJamadac Tqveni profesiiT moRvaweobT? kaxaber buaCiZe: _ diax, amJamadac pedagogi var da istorias vaswavli. mosamarTle: _ risi Tqma SegiZliaT selim xim- SiaSvilis saqmesTan dakavSirebiT? kaxaber buaCiZe: _ radgan saqarTvelos istoriis am periodis mkvlevaric gaxlavarT, SemiZlia bevri epizodis Sesaxeb mogaxsenoT, magram mis cxovrebaSi yvelaze mniSvnelovani, Cemis azriT, mainc misi gmiruli aRsasrulia da amitomac swored aqedan daviwyeb. mosamarTle: _ brZaneT!.. kaxaber buaCiZe: _ garda zemoTqmulisa, aRsaniSna- via isic, rom xalxSi gavrcelebulia araswori versia imasTan dakavSirebiT Tu rogor uRalata selim ximSiaS- vils misma erT-erTma TanamebrZolma, romelmac mters xixanis kari gauRo. sinamdvileSi, selimma Tavisi nebiT datova xixanis cixe, rom am nabijiT uamravi adamianis sicocxle exsna da asec moxda _ selim faSas Tavi mohkveTes, magram, misi Tavdadebis sanacvlod, uamravi adamiani gadaurCa gardauval sikvdils. upirvelesad, swored amis xazgasma mindoda, radgan 35 ciskari ciskari _ _ № № 1-2 1-2, 2017 , 2017 darwmunebuli var, rom Ralatis ver- sia mogonilia da Tanac im mizniT, rom qarTvelebs kidev erTi sax- elovani gmiri aRar hyolodaT da am cru versiis gavrcelebas osmalebic uwyobdnen xels da rusebic. arc erT maTgans ar surda, rom selim ximSiaS- vilis magaliTze, saqarTvelosTvis brZola gagrZelebuliyo aWaraSi da igi erTnairad miuRebeli iyo ro- gorc osmaleTis, iseve ruseTis im- periisTvis. bralmdebeli: _ Tumca zogierTebi dResac amt- kiceben, rom selim ximSiaSvilis damarcxeba mxolod RalatiT Sei- Zleboda, rogorc es qarTvelebSi arcTu iSviaTad xdeboda xolme da selim ximSiaSvilis SemTxvevaSic misi bedi moRalatem gadawyvita. kaxaber buaCiZe: _ Ralatis versia pirvelad ga- moaqveynes dimitri baqraZem da giorgi yazbegma da, marTalia, orives Rvawli mniSvnelovani iyo aWaris sakiTxTan dakavSirebiT da miT umetes maSin, 1874 wels, roca maT iq imogzaures, magram maT dauSves Secdomebi. magaliTad, dim- itri baqraZem imerxevelebi aRwera, rogorc saukeTeso meqiseebi, rom- lebzec, misi azriT, Zalian didi moTxovna iyo stambulSi. gior- gi yazbegs ki Tavis teqstSi kidev ufro meti Secdoma aqvs daSvebuli aWaris aRwerasTan dakavSirebiT da magaliTad, erTgan igi ambobs, rom aWarlebma cekva da simRera ar iciano. rogorc mogexsenebaT, 1878 wlamde, aWara mowyvetili iyo dan- arCen saqarTvelos da amitomac maT farul mogzaurobas maSindel os- maleTis imperiaSi gansakuTrebuli mniSvneloba hqonda, magram aseTi Secdomebis avtorebs, advili Sesa- Zlebelia, rom ver daedginaT selim ximSiaSvilis sikvdilis namdvili garemoebebic da maTi araswori ver- sia mere sxvebmac gaimeores... bralmdebeli: _ da Tqven ra argumentebi gaqvT sxva versiebis sasargeblod? kaxaber buaCiZe: _ selim ximSiaSvilis sikvdilis versiasTan dakavSirebiT _ ukve da- dasturebuli faqtia, rom mas Tavi mohkveTes ara xixanis cixeSi, ro- gorc amas amtkicebda, magaliTad, dimitri baqraZe, aramed sofel bakibakoSi, sadac nebismieri bavSvic ki gaCvenebT im adgils, romelsac seriyana hqvia da im saSineli gana- Cenis aRsulebas ki 1815 wels bevri TviTmxilveli hyavda. mosamarTle: _ geTanxmebiT, rom axla sabolood dadgenilia selimis Tavis mokveTis adgili, magram mainc rCeba kiTxvebi im RalatTan dakavSirebiT, romlis Sedegadac igi sikvdiliT dasajes, miuxedavad imisa, rom, Tqveni mt- kicebiT, man Tavad gadadga es nabiji. advokati: _ me ki maqvs kiTxva Tanmimdevro- basTan dakavSirebiT da mainteresebs, ratom daviwyeT selim ximSiaSvilis procesi misi sicocxlis bolo dRee- bis ganxilviT, roca nebismieri ada- miani jer ibadeba da mere kvdeba~. gimnazisti: _ es SekiTxva mec gamiCnda, magram mosamarTlis nebarTvis gareSe, misi biografiis Sesaxeb xom ver visau- brebdi? 36 ciskari ciskari _ _ № № 1-2 1-2, 2017 , 2017 bralmdebeli: _ rodidan gvyavs saqarTveloSi aseTi zrdilobiani axalgazrdebi?! gimnazisti (siamayiT): _ me quTaisis klasikuri gimna- ziis msmeneli gaxlavarT. mosamarTle (gimnazists): _ brZaneT, risi Tqmac gnebavT, oRond jer imaze mipasuxeT, saer- Tod ratom dainteresdiT selim ximSiaSvilis cxovrebiT? gimnazisti: _ upirvelesad, didi madloba am SesaZleblobisTvis, rom am istoriul procesSi monawileobis ufleba mo- meciT da Sevecdebi, Tqvens SekiTx- vas mokled da gasagebad vupasuxo. Cemi daintereseba selim ximSiaSvilis RvawliTa da biografiiT ganapiroba baton abel surgulaZis, baton ramaz surmaniZisa da baton ioseb ximSiaS- vilis wignebis wakiTxvam da maT unda vumadlode kidec Cem aq yofnas. sx- vaTa Soris, maTi damsaxurebaa isic, rom ara mxolod selim ximSiaSvilis, aramed aWaris istoriis Seswavlac daviwye da xixanis warsulic gamovikv- lie, radgan swored xixanis cixes ukavSirdeba aWareli ximSiaSvilebis Tavgadasavali. Tumca xixanis ulamaz- esi cixe abuserisZeebis aSenebulia jer kidev Sua saukuneebSi da sxvaTa Soris, maT jer eklesia aaSenes iq da mere cixesimagre... mosamarTle (awyvetinebs): _ albaT, am sakiTxebTan dakav- SirebiT batoni Tedo saxokia ukeT isaubrebs, romelic aq brZandeba. bralmdebeli: _ Tu batoni Tedo aq brZande- ba, albaT umjobesi iqneboda, rom pirveli sityva am procesze swored misTvis dagveTmo. mosamarTle (cota dacinviT): _ madloba rCevisaTvis, magram Tqveni daxmarebis gareSec. Cveni survilic swored es iyo, rom es sasamarTlo procesi baton Tedo saxokias gaexsna, magram man isurva bolos gamosvla da Tu azrs Seicv- lis, baton Tedos SeuZlia Tavisi sityva maSin brZanos, roca amas TviTon CaTvlis saWirod. batoni Tedo saxokia xeliT aniS- nebs mosamarTles, rom mas SeuZlia gaagrZelos procesi da gimnazis- tic, madlobis niSnad, baton Tedos Tavs dauqnevs. mosamarTle (gimnazists): _ SegiZliaT, gaagrZeloT, miuxe- davad imisa, rom Zalian Soridan daiwyeT. gimnazisti: _ madloba kidev erTxel, magram ase Soridan imitom daviwye, rom iqneb abuseriZe tbeli Tavis lit- eraturul teqstebsa da astrono- miul traqtats swored xixanis cix- esimagreSi werda _ swored iq, sadac Tavisi cxovrebis ukanaskneli wle- bi gaatara selim ximSiaSvilma. aqa- mde isic ar vicodi, rom Tamar mefe swored xixanis cixeSi gardaicvala da igi iqve dakrZales kidec... bralmdebeli (awyvetinebs): _ magram es xom ubralod leg- endaa. advokati: _ zogjer legenda ufro realuria, vidre realuri faqtebi. 37 ciskari ciskari _ _ № № 1-2 1-2, 2017 , 2017 braldmdebeli: _ Tumca aseTi legenda, dameTanx- mebiT, rom saqarTvelos yvela kuTxe- Si arsebobs da zogan ramdenimec ki. advokati: _ geTanxmebiT da namdvilad asea, magram es sulac ar niSnavs imas, rom Tamar mefis saflavi aWaraSi ar unda veZeboT. bralmdebeli: _ da ratom unda veZeboT mainca- damainc aWaraSi da ratom ar unda veZeboT sxvaganac?! Tqveni logika cota gaugebaria CemTvis. gimnazisti: _ CemTvisac gaugebari iqneboda, rom ara Cemi daintereseba selim ximSiaSviliT da rom ara aWaraSi SarSan mogzaurobisas aRmoCenili faqti _ aq uamravi xidia, romelic Tamaris mier aris agebuli. bralmdebeli: _ Tu romelime xids Tamar mefis saxeli hqvia, es jer kidev ar niS- navs imas, rom es xidi Tamar mefis aSenebulia. advokati: _ iqneb am sakiTxTan dakavSire- biT istorikosis azri mogvesmina. kaxaber buaCiZe: _ gasagebi mizezebis gamo, Tamar mefis saxeli hqvia uamrav xidsa Tu cixesimagres saqarTveloSi, rac upirvelesad Tamaris epoqaSi ageba- ze miuTiTebs da xSir SemTxvevaSi, roca qtitori da aRmSenebeli sx- vaa, is mainc Tamar mefes miewereba. gimnazisti: _ magram is xom faqtia, rom SoTa rusTavelma Tamar mefe, pirvelad aWaraSi naxa. bralmdebeli: _ ai, es ambavi ki namdvilad pir- velad mesmis. gimnazisti: _ SeiZleba Tqven isic ar iciT, rom aWaraSic, xinos xeobaSic aris sofeli rusTavi da SoTa rusTave- li SeiZleba swored im rusTavidan iyo da amitomac Sexvda pirvelad Tamar mefes ninowmindaSi. batoni Tedo saxokia: _ aWaraSi erTxel isic movismi- ne, rom rusTavelma Tamari pirve- lad maSin dainaxa, roca Tamar mefe furtios xidze gadadiodao… mosamarTle: _ batono Tedo, radgan CaerieT da sityvac SegvawieT, iqneb, Tqve- ni saTqmelic ukve brZanoT mTavar sakiTxTan dakavSirebiT. batoni Tedo saxokia: _ diax, Tavi mainc ver Sevikave da es, albaT, Tamar mefis xsenebis bralia da, sxvaTa Soris, misi br- ZanebiT, xixanis cixidan zarzmamde maSin gvirabic ki gaiyvanes. mosamarTle: _ Tamar mefis xseneba da mis Se- saxeb saubari CvenTvis yovelTvis sasiamovno iqneba, magram, radganac Cveni procesi selim ximSiaSvils eZRvneba, iqneb, Tqvenc konkretu- lad mis Sesaxeb isaubroT. bodiSs gixdiT, ra Tqma unda... 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